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jenni_b
#1 Posted : Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:23:04 AM Quote
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Ive been in hospital again, Sad but home again nowThumpUp

I'm still very fatigued but it seems the ra is having a big lairy moment.
They've doubled my steroids for now. To 20

Then 15 then back to normal on 10.

I got my follow up appt yesterday..... January 2013!!!

Had to laugh.

I'm so very tired. The bloods are pretty much what they were last flair when they started me off on the enbrel. Having flunked the other meds, have very little in the way of options so holding on on the enbrel for now as I seemed to be coping on it a little more.

Off for another little sleep.

The anemia is down to 8.8

But the crp is around the 170 mark so I guess that's why

Much love to all

I know you understand

Jenni xx
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Tinafromnotts
#2 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2012 1:15:39 PM Quote
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Hi Jenni,
Sorry to hear of your problems - it sounds awful.
I have only been diagnosed a few months, but am moving in the right direction so to hear your news I certainly feel for you.
What shocks me is the follow up in January 2013 - surely this goes against the NICE guidelines?
A student of mine has a girlfriend studying medicine and she told me to look on the NHS site for NICE guidelines to see what the recommended follow-ups should be - perhaps someone on here would know the actual address? If I find it I will repost.
Good luck
Tina
BarbieGirl
#3 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2012 4:52:20 PM Quote
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Jenni, we know how hard it is for you again, and know you will continue to fight this awful disease. Thinking of you, xSmile
BARBARA
LynW
#4 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2012 6:19:11 PM Quote
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Hi Tina

The standard follow up for rheumatology appointments is 6 months, occasionally 12 months if the disease is long standing and well controlled, it's up to the judgement of the individual consultant and the needs of the patient. Changes in Rheumatoid do not normally happen overnight, unless due to an exacerbation in which case a more urgent appointment can be sought. The number of Rheumatoid patients increases steadily and each one is a case that will need continued monitoring, for life in most cases. The number of Rheumatologists is not increasing sufficiently to meet demand and hence the problem with appointments.

NICE guidelines for Rheumatology

Anyone with special Rheumatology needs ie severe RA, co-morbidities, significant flare, uncontrolled disease will normally always be seen as soon as possible, in my experience.

Hope this helps to clarify. Jenni has 'red boots' LOL ... she gets seen when needed!

Lyn x




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Audrey33
#5 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2012 7:11:15 PM Quote
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Hi

Jenni

hope you feel a little better but i know it seams a long way off when you feel bad take your time and i hope you try and change you appoinment. soon

take care

Audrey
jenni_b
#6 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2012 8:17:38 PM Quote
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Its interesting to see how different depts are set up isn't it?

You can, with a fair wind and a pro active gp leave a message on the rheummy nurse answer phone. There is no out of hours cover for rheumatology any more, so don't get sick near weekends!
If you leave a message, within48 hrs they ring back and you get popped on the emergency clinic list. This is normally run by junior dr team- there's no point ms seeing one of these so I ask to be seen by a registrar or consultant or at least have one in the dept while I'm being seen so they can be summonses to help

To see my rheumatologist, despite having failed the meds and having largely uncontrolled disease is about 12-18 months. Even then it's his 'team'.

Because I've needed helps often I've ended up being admitted. I know I've been ever so poorly but it's been a relief to see him on his round.

The other thing is my rheummy team are lovely
I like all of them
But it's getting to see them

It used to be I could ring the rheummy nurse who would sPeak with me, see me, book an urgent
Appt but now they have no contCt with the consultants.

Even seeing her is tricky to get in
They always tell me it needs to be 3 monthly appt but I end uP being admitted long before then! I'd love to last as long as January

Perhaps that could be a next goal!

Are your appointments even harder to get?

My consultant gets fed up seeing tennis elbow when he'd rather be treating 'interesting rheumatology'
Apparently the 'new cAse' rule stops him doing this





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Paula-C
#7 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2012 8:56:41 PM Quote
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I have always been happy about appointments at my hospital. I have had RA for four years now and apart from two occasions I have seen my consultant at appointments. I saw him last January, then had the next appointment in May, this by coincidence fell just right with me having my raised ALT levels. They had just got back to a normal range, so he organised me to start my MTX injections that day in the clinic. He wanted to see me five weeks later, appointment made when I left and I am seeing him this Friday. So that will be three appointments in just under 6 months.

Still can't believe Jenni that you've got to wait till Jan next year with how things are for you at the moment, just does not seem right at all.

If I ring my specialist nurses up and leave a message, depending on what time of day it is, I either get a call that day or the next. Have found out now that if I ring around 3pm there is normally a nurse in the office to answer the phone. I have phoned in the past and when I've told them I'm not doing very well they've insisted that I go in to see them or the consultant (been told he tries to leave a few appointments free each week for emergencies).

When I read on here of how others have such trouble getting an appointment to see anyone, it makes me realise just how lucky I am. I know I've posted on here that I'm not happy with my consultant at the moment, but I don't really want to change hospitals when I take all of this into consideration.

Paula
zena_mary
#8 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2012 9:56:48 PM Quote
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Must say, I think my rheumy team are pretty good now that I know them fairly well.
I can speak to the nurse on the day I ring, as long as I ring early enough. I do not see my rheumatologist very often, but have now found that if I actually ask to see him, then I get an app. fairly soon. He did tell me on one occasion, some time ago, when I was pretty bad, that I should have written to him to tell him how bad I was and he would have seen me!!! At the time I was a fairly new comer to R.A. and was rather surprised to say the least! Thankfully I have not needed to do this.
My appointments do tend to be with the nurse, but she will go off and discuss things with the doc. and he will tell her what to do, or sometimes he will then come in to discuss options with me. My app. are 3 monthly, but return to 6 monhtly when better controlled. Reading other comments, I can see that I am looked after pretty well!
Best wishes all, Zena x
BarbieGirl
#9 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 12:55:29 PM Quote
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I must admit that here if I leave a message (no one ever answers the phone, its a leave a message only) for the nurses it has taken a week for them to get back to me!!! By then I have called the department and asked for an urgent appointment, most of the receptionists are very good, but occasionally I get given my consultant's secretary's number, and have to call her to find me one. Luckily she is lovely and helps out as soon as she's able

I have no idea why its all so different dependant on where we live!!

With my regular appointments he has been seeing me every three months trying to get the disease under control. He was reluctant to put me on an anti-TNF as he was worried that the pain was mainly fibromyalgia, but he agreed, and it appears to be working, so hopefully it is the disease and can be controlled.
I saw my specialist nurse last week and told her that I do feel better, and she said the Humira should work even better over time, so fingers crossed ThumpUp
BARBARA
suzanne_p
#10 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:01:27 PM Quote
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hi Jenni,

i know you've been admitted so many times which is such a shame that you have to go through this,

since i was diagnosed over two years ago my appointment's are made as i leave and are for 3 to 4 months.

we have two Rheumy Nurse's, one i'm assigned to but both can help me .. if i phone and there's no one there i normally get a call with 48 hours unless one of them is on holiday, but i will get a call back eventually with an apology.

it really seems a lottery as to where we live which NRAS did say when i went to a meeting when i was first diagnosed.

sending my best wishes to you Jenni,

Suzanne x

P.S. and like Paula i think there's appointments open on a Wednesday for emergencies, i have also seen the Nurse on this day if needed in between appointments.
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